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That's disgusting.
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What the hell is Japan spending for?
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France?
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The next time you see a movie where USA is
scared by a third world country, think about
this chart and have a good laugh.
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But we're a nation at war. There's killers
out there and those evildoers hate our
freedom.
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This chart should normalize by GDP per
capita. Richer countries trade spending on
technology for troop survival rates.
PPP:
US: 43,444
Russia: 12,096
China: 7,598
Also, Japan, South Korea, and countries in
Wester Europe spend less in part because the
US spends more.
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Showing this as a percentage of GDP would be
more meaningful. No matter, I'm sure the US
would still lead the pack. Scary!
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we win.
Posted 16 months ago.
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We make America great and powerful by
borrowing trillions of dollars, with no hope
of ever repaying it, and distributing it to
war profiteers.
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"What the hell is Japan spending
for?"
North Korea
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Imagine how much wealthier each American
would be if those trillions of dollars were
invested by the market in new products and
industries.
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> France ?
Ivory Coast, Lebanon, the Balkans,
Afghanistan...
> What the hell is Japan spending for ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deployment_of_Japanese_
troops_to_Iraq
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France, UK: I guess they spend that much
mainly because they have their own nuclear
arsenal.
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Hurricanes hate our freedom.
Posted 15 months ago.
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"What the hell is Japan spending
for?"
NK and China.
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i agree % of gdp or something else should be
used. we have the largest economy in the
world, and things are expensive here. if
something costs 1/10th the cost of what it
does here to make in china, they get 10x the
value out of that dollar.
there definitely needs to be some
normalization going on here.
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This is ridiculous. And just imagine. If we
(United States) didn't spend so much on our
military, we could have something we've
desperately been needing. Socialized Health
care anyone?
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Yes, the US spends a ton of money but do they
get value for dollar spent or is it just a
transfer of money?
I don't think they get much bang for the
buck so to speak.
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How embarassing.
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you all are dumb. that is less then .01 % of
our gdp where as china for instance it more
like 3-4% of their gdp. so before you belive
any old chart research the fact first and i
wont have to do this so often.
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Military spending : totals, per capita and
per $GDP
Not exactly the same data (this one seems
to come from the CIA world factbook)
www.nationmaster.com/graph/mil_exp_dol_fig-mi
litary-expen...
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are you people stupid? that number for china
is astronomically low. Their undeclared
budget is probably 2x that number.
What is Japan spending for? If you had
China and North Korea in your neighborhood
you would be spending too.
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This is same as saying Bill gates is spending
$500.00 for his dinner and I am only spending
$10.00. What a waste!
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A colleague showed this to me and was
wondering if the US spending includes
potential litigation costs due to "Friendly Fire"
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beef6779 says "you all are dumb. that is
less then .01 % of our gdp "
You may want to check your facts. .01%?
do the math, That puts GDP off the charts.
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how sad.
wtf is wrong with you americans? don't just
stand there, OPEN YOUR DAMN MOUTHS
ALREADY!!!!
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America, fuck yeah!
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What exactly do you mean by circa? Great
stat, but you're hurting your credibility by
saying "circa 2003-2005"
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But we're a nation at war. There's killers
out there and those evildoers hate our
freedom.
Are you serious? Do you really believe that
terrorists sit there thinking "Hmmm,
who's freedom should we hate today? America?
Done! Lets attack them because we hate their
freedom so much."
That's not how it is, they hate you for the
same reason everyone else does and this chart
shows that reason very nicely.
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This data should really be normalized against
gross domestic product. Otherwise it is
completely meaningless (and stupid in fact).
For example:
France's GDP: US$ 1.8 trillion
USA's GDP: US$ 13 trillion
France's percentage of military spending
against GDP: US$40b/US$1800b = 2.2%
USA's percentage of military spending
against GDP: US$400b/US$13000b = 3%
So really not as much of a difference as
the graph suggests...
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Seen in your Color set. (?)
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is there a source for this data?
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I wonder how much the US has spent on world
aid and helping others. Bugger all i'd
suspect.
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Indeed, what the hell is with Japan? Didn't
they sign some sort of non aggression treaty
that didn't allow them to have a military?
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necromonger [deleted] says:
>>is there a source for this data?
Yes.
www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/Sp
ending.asp
Check the tabulated data somewhere in the
middle.
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I wonder how much the US has spent on world
aid and helping others. Bugger all i'd
suspect.
For Caffeine inc: usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=was
hfile-englis...
In other words, more than any other
country.
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"What the hell is Japan spending
for?"
GODZILLA !!!
Posted 15 months ago.
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USA has the highest military spending because
of its in a war ..
OR
USA is in war because of its highest
military spending..
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not 2 times more than second place,.. not 3,
not 4, 5,6,7,.. but 8 times what the any
other nations is spending.. incredible.
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"France"
rampants unicorn attacks
"Japan"
inflated Godzilla defense budget
"USA"
Hurricanes, Russians, Baby Dolphins, and
Man Bear Pigs hate our freedom
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Also where do you think most new technology
is invented? Most of it is created for the
military then commercialized for the general
public. Computers, GPS, the H3 (lol) anyone?
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The reason we spend so much is because we
have to. Everyone who works in steel or
technology (building airplanes, the computers
that run them, the metal in the guns) all of
those people have jobs, if we spend less on
our military our economy goes into free fall
because all those workers are now out of
jobs. They call it "the military
industrial complex" when war is
profitable, you end up seeing a lot more of
it.
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"They" who call the military
industrial complex sound like conspiracy
theorists mixed w/ a bit of 70ish hippie.
There are plenty of other things to make
metal out of. The actual companies that make
specific military products are small. Those
large companies that make military equipment
also do other non-military work because on
it's own it can't support the larger
companies.
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Remember that almost half of the US budget is
for pizza delivered to the front line....
delivered from Tony's Pizza, New York. That
adds up you know.....
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But ya gotta remember, all those other
nations (except China and Russia) don't have to spend money on their military because the
United States usually winds up protecting
their butts. Why spend thousands of dollars
on home security when you live next to a
police station?
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And FEMA took 4 days to deliver water to the
superdome ...
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ok ... per this site:
www.nationmaster.com/graph/mil_exp_dol_fig_pe
rgdp-expendi...
Military spending per $ of GDP:
#46 United States: $0.24 per $10 of GDP
#28 China: $0.34 per $10 of GDP
Other Notables:
#31 Greece: $0.30 per $10 of GDP
#47 France: $0.23 per $10 of GDP
Did anyone notice that this graph is
showing 'circa' 3 years ... and many posts
are dividing this by one year of GDP.
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"ok ... per this site:
www.nationmaster.com/graph/mil_exp_dol_fig_pe
rgdp-expendi...
Military spending per $ of GDP:
#46 United States: $0.24 per $10 of GDP
#28 China: $0.34 per $10 of GDP
Other Notables:
#31 Greece: $0.30 per $10 of GDP
#47 France: $0.23 per $10 of GDP
Did anyone notice that this graph is
showing 'circa' 3 years ... and many posts
are dividing this by one year of GDP."
Don't confuse people with facts!!! :P
Why would any country in Europe need a
large military since the U.S. has major bases
there to protect them? How much does our
military spend in Kosovo, N. Korea etc...
places where wars never ended? How much does
it cost to keep a military base overseas?
You can easily see how the U.S. spends so
much. Also, what does the VA cost or health
care for troops? It's not cheap to run a
military of any size.
Another comparision, Healthcare spending in
the U.S. is 15% of GDP, the U.S. government
spends half that for Medicare and Medicaid,
or roughly 7% of U.S. GDP. Military is 3.3%
so get a grip.
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I'm in the military and I'm just as disgusted
as all of you but I know it any of that
funding is cut, a lot of the people I work
with will have a bitch fit.
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Go Canada!
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mad_markd: Why would any country in Europe
need a large military since the U.S. has
major bases there to protect them?
post cold war US (still) has bases in EU
for the sole purpose of influencing other
countries policies - your military might is
the only thing keeping your over-debt economy
afloat
US is not protecting anybody but their own
interest, should be clear to anyone by now...
lots of examples around since the end of WW2
and your comparison of medicare and other
related expenses - well, even if the figures
are correct, we all know your healthcare is
in deep crisis, so something doesn't add-up
here, man
statistics is one thing, but reality just
doesn't support these numbers you found
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another perspective I'd like to add,
especially aimed at those who urge that the
figures should be expressed in a more
normalized manner (GDP, per capita, etc)...
Bullets (or bombs, or whatever) cost
roughly the same all over the world (if your
buyer is the military). So, rename the graph
"Bullets bought by World Military
Forces", or "Bombs Purchased",
or whatever. A bomb bought by a country
spending 3% of its GDP kills/maims just as
much as one bought by another country who
spends 0.0001% of its GDP on the military.
The hideously obese lump of money spent by
the US has bought it horrendous quantities of
weapons, utterly unequaled by any other. That
really frightens me. It would not have, had
the US been the most stable and rational
people in the world...but that is far from
being the case :(
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Solution: www.RonPaul2008.com
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I'm disappointed in Canada. I mean, cmon
guys, get your game together.
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Wow, none of you know how DoD appropriations
work do you?
Just think, $110 billion is just for
MilPers
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And they tell us Russia spends more money on
Military then us
But seriously folks why is Japan spending.
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reminds me of this little clip
truemajority.org/oreos/
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Indeed, what the hell is with Japan? Didn't
they sign some sort of non aggression treaty
that didn't allow them to have a military?
They're like Germany before WW2 in the
sense that they're technically not allowed to
have an army but everyone knows they have
one.
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Why is Japan spending?
As pointed out above, North Korea and China
are good reasons. Japan has a
"Self-Defense Force" that requires
legislation for it to go outside the country
and this has happened only twice since WWII.
There are about 195, 000 active duty and
58,000 reserve personnel in the JSDF but
here's a very important factor: The active
duty roster is extremely top-heavy with
career officers and NCOs. If it became
necessary a draft could be enacted to double
or triple the number of active duty troops.
So within months the JSDF might easily number
around 600.000 troops led by led by
well-trained pros. As a percentage of overall
population, a 600k Japanese military would
be comparable to the present percent of
military/overall population in the US.
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inajeep... the military industrial complex
was actually defined/named by President
Dwight Eisenhower (1960).. he strongly
warned against the abuses that were likely to
arise by the collaboration.
There is absolutely NO reason to 'scale'
defense spending as a percent of GDP. The
fact is we (US) have the largest most
expensive military in the world; no
combination of countries in the world has as
large and diverse a military as the US.
What does percent of GDP have to do with that
except to confuse the fact: percentage is
simply a red herring or spin factor.
What seems true though is that the US has a
huge navy and airforce and an inadequate
'policing force' to address criminal
terroists. Our defense spending is almost
entirely directed toward winning the 'last
war' (WWII).
As has been pointed out by military
historians for centuries this is the
traditional and tragic mistake of successful
military nation states. We are not engaged
in War which is defined as vilent conflict
between nations. Mis-naming the enemy is the
first mistake!
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www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
"# Health care spending is 4.3 times
the amount spent on national defense (4).
# In 2005, the United States spent 16
percent of its gross domestic product (GDP)
on health care. It is projected that the
percentage will reach 20 percent in the next
decade (2)."
Found that in a 1 min google search
Kulpims.
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Here's a couple graphs for spending per GDP
and as a percentage of GDP:
www.nato.int/docu/review/2005/issue3/graphics
/contents/i3...
www.nato.int/docu/review/2002/issue2/graphics
/contents/i2...
I also agree that we are trading the
spending on technology to compensate for a
smaller, professional military force. Ever
see what ONE stealth bomber costs?
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Dont forget that a good chunk of that goes
straight into the pockets of war profiteers
like the Rockefeller's and Rothschild's etc..
WAR IS A RACKET!!!
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Source?
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The biggest spending categories are programs
in the Health and Human Services department,
Medicare and Medicaid, Social Security,
military $437.7 billion. We spend $560
billion on Medicare and Medicaid, $516
billion on Social Security. The military
comes in fourth,
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Actually the per-capita is more telling, GDP
is a worthless figure, as every time there is
a hurricane/earthquake the USAs GDP shoots
through the roof, as GDP is generated from
repairs.
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what's your source? i can make something
similar in paint
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Latest numbers on military spending by GDP.
US isn't top but it's very close.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Military_expendit
ure_percent_...
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"Dont forget that a good chunk of that
goes straight into the pockets of war
profiteers like the Rockefeller's and
Rothschild's etc.."
Wrong, that is not the War budget, that is
the defense budget, very few of those dollars
(besides probably O&M and Milpers) are
even used in anything having to do with the
war.
DCAA is the only defense agency I know of
that has a special code for using their
appropriations for the Iraq war, and that
goes towards auditing contracts that are
being used by departments war budgets
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A country cannot rule by fear unless others
have something to fear. Military power is
the way a country "flex's" its
muscles, this countries muscles cost more
than they are worth.
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vergognoso!
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Certainly Japan's military budget would be a
virtuosic model of hyperefficiency,
especially because it'd have no
people-overhead. Because, like I've always
said, "Japan" and
"Nippon" are synonyms for
"scarily advanced robots".
And (just noticed):
Isn't it cute how the US and Canada mark
the scale's opposite extrema?
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